It’s been 3 weeks since David had a private lesson with you and Ryan in Arizona.
Since then, we took your advice and have been working on getting the glove arm up sooner to create more trunk tilt going into landing. That has gone very well, but the problem we continue to have is getting his throwing elbow up to shoulder height by the time the front foot touches down.
It seems the added trunk tilt has caused David’s throwing hand to over take his elbow too soon in the arm swing, causing a slightly low elbow at touch down. I’ve tried to correct this by having him keep a good bend in his elbow and lift it as he swings the arm back and up and work on his timing between his arm and his front foot touching down. It’s getting better, but I’m not satisfied yet.
These videos were taken during today’s bullpen. We have used King Felix and Bard as models for the arm swing. I’ve noticed the two use slightly different arm swings with Felix looking similar to David’s.
Could you please review these videos from the side and back and tell us if we’re on the right track? David said today he’s “annoyed” by the elbow problem.
Thanks for your time.
Randy and David,
First of all you guys are doing great making these changes. The value of feedback is that once a change occurs you must make sure something else does not crop up.
The first thing I want you to notice is the position of the arms at hand break between King Felix and David from the side angle. Notice how Felix, Bard or Greinke keep their elbows down and relaxed in close to the trunk. Davids are directed out away from the trunk. Changing this will help create a longer and more relaxed arm swing.
You guys have done a great job with getting the lead arm up and creating some nice
trunk tilt. Nice adjustment.
However, David is not using his lead arm as an extension of his front shoulder to
drive the lead elbow down and speed up the trunk. If you put David and Felix at the beginning of trunk rotation notice the differences in glove and lead arm positioning. Felix drives his lead arm and glove down toward his front hip while David’s elbow and glove are positioned out in front of his trunk.
This is why David’s throwing arm starts to move forward by itself rather than letting the trunk whip pull it through.
From the back, even though I cannot see his front foot at landing, I can see he’s into early external rotation forcing his arm to lay back too early and too far. The ball position from the back should not move to the the 11 o’clock position of 12 o’clock. It should stay over his cap. Notice it moves down past David’s left ear while his trunk rotates. This of course is stressful on the elbow.
Remember from the back angle you want the arm at touchdown to be semi-cocked
with the ball at about the 1 o’clock position.
Then at landing with the weight on the front leg the arm goes to 12 o’clock where David’s goes to 11 o’clock.
This of course is because the arm is getting up too early and the trunk is not pulling
the arm through.
I would like to see David break his hands in a bit closer to his body.
I love the way you guys take action.
Also, I am going to be posting this as a member lesson tomorrow so you all can see exactly what I am referring to.
We have been trying to identify the cause of the early arm and I completely missed the lead arm not pulling all the way back to the hip.
We’ll be looking forward to tomorrow’s lesson. David’s excited to get these faults taken care of.
Thank you very much for the video lesson on David this month. It will be a huge help.
David is in bed right now, but we’ll watch the lesson together tomorrow before his bullpen. He’s been throwing since last December, so I’m going to shut him down for the month of October and then get started again on November 1. So, he has two more bullpens this week before he stops throwing for a month.
1) Of the two changes we need to work on (elbows in closer to the body and pulling the glove to the opposite hip at the start of trunk rotation), which should we work on first? Or do you think we could do both at the same time? I know you say fix the beginning first, but I thought I would ask to be sure.
2) When David makes the change of pulling his glove arm into his hip sooner to fix the early external rotation, do you think that the added tilt will cause him to throw over the top instead of 3/4? Dumb question I’m sure, but I don’t want his arm slot to change so he can get the most out of his trunk rotation.
Thanks for all you do,
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