My 16 year-old son (Matt) has a nice flat-back finish when he throws a change-up or curve, but he tends to cut off the finish on his fastball. His throwing hand still finishes outside his front knee, but his back never gets completely flat on the fastball the way it does on the change-up and curve. This is something that has been happening consistently over the past few months, not just a few times. Any idea what could be causing this?
Post a video of him pitching and we can all take a crack at it……..:)
Thanks for the additional views.
This is an interesting question. Technically, he is finishing his FB with a flat-back position, just not as much as his off-speed pitch. It wouldn’t be tightness in the front of the shoulder causing him to cut off his motion or he would display it on all pitches.
Maybe Dick has seen this and has suggestions, but I’m not sure I would worry. An answer to the question would be nice though. Is he aware his finish on the FB is different than the off-speed pitches?
BTW, from the back view, you can see he is collapsing the back leg due to poor weight shift. Have him start with the feet closer together so he loads all his weight on the back leg prior to weight shift.
He is aware that his finish is different on the fastball. He doesn’t know why. It’s not what I would like to see in a finish. It looks like it could add stress to the shoulder. I hope Dick will weigh in on this.
The back leg is an ongoing project. It’s much better than it was a year ago but clearly not where it needs to be.
Do you have a side view too?
I wasn’t able to get a side view from this game.
The newer YouTube videos from the side and back are no longer available to view.
Can you get them back up?
I do not see a problem. It may be that he is just emphasizing body movement more with the change-up for deception.
However, he should focus on getting as much out of his trunk as possible.
It is apparent that the motions are very different.
A couple of suggestions.
His posture is better with the change-up pitch. He is leaning back on his fastball so his weight is more on his heel. Also, at landing his knee is not over his foot. He is landing across the line. This takes extra time to reposition the knee.
It appears he is trying to cock his wrist. Hopefully the wrist is relaxed…not tense.
Fix the posture, the collapsing back leg and the landing and you have a nice solid repeatable delivery.
How is his velocity right now?
Maybe you can post some better side shots.
Thank you. We will work on the things you mentioned.
My son’s velocity has improved a good bit since you and Ryan did a video analysis for us in April 2010. Back then, at age 15, his 2-seam was topping out at 83, and his change-up was usually around 65. Yesterday (15 months later), his 2-seam topped out at 91 and was consistently 87-88. His change-up is now up to 72. He works hard, but he couldn’t have made these improvements without your program.
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