Went to see a therapist who worked out some nerve entrapments and adhesions. Since then, I have watched closely when he throws to other kids. When he tries to throw hard and generate power through his arm, he shortens his follow through. I have been getting him to picture his arm as an elephant trunk during follow through to encourage long effortless deceleration…so far so good. No more pain. He is performing a general strength training program right now to develop overall strength. We will pick up again with Dick’s strength program at the end of the summer.
He was participating in an indoor league that ran over the eight week program as well. His games were on Wednesdays. The throwing program was on saturdays and wednesdays. During the games, he only pitched 2 innings and averaged 10 to 20 pitches per outing. He only averaged one baserunner per game and did not run too many deep counts. On the days he pitched, he did not do the long toss portion of the program. He was not experiencing pain during this time. It seems to be only since his high school practices began that he complains of this type of pain. I agree that he has some issues with his mechanics, but we have fixed some of the major flaws. Unfortunately, I am not at his practices to video him throwing. His conditioning program consisted of speed work with a sprint coach and alot of hip, leg and core strength. He did some upper body strength work once per week. He used bands to condition his shoulder, and upper and mid back twice per week. He usually warms up very well and I asked him what the high school team did for warm ups and it sounded pretty thorough. I did make an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon yesterday just to have him evaluated. I will ask the school trainer to have him held out of throwing until then. In the mean time, maybe i could get him video taped to evaluate his mechanics both off the mound and long tossing. maybe, he is throwing too hard ( he denies this) or he just developed a bad habit.
is it too late to teach him to throw left handed???
is it too late to teach him to throw left handed?
An added bit of information regarding my son…. he grew 3 inches over the past 3 or 4 months.
My 15 year old son is 6ft 4in and 135 lbs. He must long toss 4 to 6 days per week. The boys start from 20 feet and build to about 110 to 120 feet for 10 to 25 throws at that distance. He says you must throw more at a long distance during cold weather because it gets the blood flowing. His coach told him the only way to build arm strength is long toss. After participating in a throwing program for 2 times per week for 8 weeks over the winter his arm was ready for the rigors of the season. Now, he has arm pain..he describes it as from the bottom of the shoulder to the top of the elbow around the biceps and triceps…the other day he said the arm was numb and he couldn’t open and close his hand normally. anyone know what may be going on with this arm without having to go through an MRI?
Dick, Thanks for the note of advice and warning. Thankfully, my son is not with a pitching instructor. He is merely playing in an indoor high school league and some folks are watching and making comments. Scott Waz lives near by and hopefully, we’ll be working together real soon. I will be video taping his throwing sessions beginning this weekend. May I send them to you for an opinion? An additional note….I seem to have misplaced my conditioning DVDs.
The other day, my 15 year old son was pitching and an instructor made a comment….nice balance, looks good, but needs to move his arm out of his glove faster to generate more velocity. I was thinking, “huh?” Doesn’t make sense. Any takers?
I think I need to speak with him again this weekend and find out exactly what he is thinking.
My son goes to a pitching instructor to throw over the winter. Matthew is a right handed pitcher and his instructor suggested he begin on the 3rd base side. Reasoning…. harder for the batter to track the ball that looks like its coming at him and moves across the plate. Still not sold on that one.
Hey Waz. It’s Steve from the Logan Lions. Any feedback on my post?
After throwing over the winter, no pain, I began to throw out side. Lately, I have some soreness at the release point behind my shoulder. If I change to a higher arm slot, I don’t feel as much pain. I threw about 20 pitches today and had tightness and was afraid to go more than 40 -50 % effort. Any suggestions?
Thank you Dick. My son takes Karate, and plays basketball also. I guess my concern with him is that he lacks enough strength to perform proper push ups. Do we just continue to do them and watch for improved technique? Or is working with dumbells beneficial? I have begun to re-read the materials again and will begin the two of us on the core strength program also. Thanks for your responses. They have been a good help. Steve
Dick, I guess I’d keep watching and wondering if I’m doing it right. Or, I’d try and arrange a personal meeting with you and get some personal training if that were possible. Steve
I bought the program last year but thought it was too much for my 10 year old to handle. I took some of the information and gradually worked them in to correct a few mechanical flaws. It still seems like an awful lot of information. It seems a little overwhelming. However, I think he is ready to “get with the program”. So am I. I still like to pitch and have a lot of mechanical flaws of my own to correct. I believe most of mine originate from poor conditioning. Anyway, where is the best place to start? How much info is too much info? I’m not that confident in being able to spot all of the flawsthat need correcting. Do you have any advice?