I have the JC Video analysis system and have been trying to post a clip of my son. It will only convert to jav to export ( as far as I can find ). What do you guys suggest the best way to get a clip in for evaluation.
Thanks for the info, I will try to keep my hand still and see what happens. I know he pitches faster than a lot but “Prodigy” would not be a label I put on him. Thanks Brent
Hey Geoff, Boerne is about 25 miles Northwest of San Antonio. My boy just turned 8. I started easing him into the Epstein hitting when he was 6. We play only tournament ball during the spring. He can hit! He hit 3 triples, one hopped all of them into a 215 ft fence, 2 doubles, and five 2 rbi singles for us this weekend. He is doing well on the pitching so far, we have not started kid pitch yet so I don’t know how he will mentally adjust. He is hitting 49-50 consistently on the “glove radar” but I don’t know how accurate it is. I first heard of Mr. Mills while sitting with Mike and Jake at thier cage. I was sitting thier trying to pick every bit of baseball knowledge from them I could while I was there, and pitching came up. I pitched when I was young and did well. I also hit well but never as good as I can now. I started asking if I was tought to hit that way, how the heck was I taught to pitch. ( I lived an hour bike ride form a community college that let me work with them from the time I was about 10). We discussed a while and when I got to the airport I read the whole “Pitching website on my cell phone”. My wife was not that happy as I was talking about pitching when I came home from getting certified as a hitting instructor. I like all of you am just trying to give him the best shot to enjoy his baseball career no matter how long or short it may be. I am confident I found the right information and help. Brent
Good to hear, I am also an Epstein instructor in Texas. I am hoping my son has as much success with momentum pitching as he has with the hitting. Brent
I purchased one of the little radar devices that you attach to the back of your glove for training sake. My son is 8 and we have been working at a fairly slow but steady rate since early in the year. I purchased it just for a comparison sake from one pitch to the next, so I could show him that speeding things up vs. slowing things to a balance makes a difference. I am questioning the device, it says add 1 mph for every 7 feet of distance. We are at 46 ft so I just add 6 mph. Has anybody compared this device to a gun. It is reading 49-50 and adding 6 seems unrealistic at 8. Thanks, Brent
Geoff, Are you an Epstein instructor?
Hey Derek, My son and I would love a copy. [email]email@example.com[/email] Thanks
Hey Tgeiger, I figured you would get bombarded with people wanting your stat report. I would love a copy if you don’t mind. I just watched the post from Mexicali! Pretty wild down there! [email]firstname.lastname@example.org[/email]
Just like here, do your homework. Mankin and Epstein both teach rotational hitting. Be careful of some of the products!
Epsteins style of teaching is a lot like the pitching here, using the elastic stretch to generate power not lifting weights. It also uses backwards teaching. It starts off halfway through the swing and you build backwards from there. Hips lead hands, Hands inside the ball, get on the plane of the pitch, are the core of his teaching. The similarities in the way your son will have to deal with coaches is also the same. We have other coaches snicker at our 8 year olds stance’s at the plate until the first time through the line up then they are wondering what the heck we are teaching these boys. I went and worked with Mike and his son Jake to become one of their instructors. I was sold on it and tired of watching the instructors around here teach the old linear style of hitting that generates no power. It was through another instructor I met while in Colorado at the Epstein’s that I heard about Dick Mills. I also am sold on this and here I am trying to learn everything I can to teach my boys the right way to pitch from an early age.
I will try this again later. maybe
I’m coaching a 15-16 team this summer. I asked a kid why he breaks his back leg down so low. I assumed that he was being taught this in HS since other kids on his team do the same thing. What he said is something you would not normally think of. He said he was never taught to collapse, but did it as a means to keep the ball down in the zone. I think it would tend to make the arm drag and the ball to sail high. We talked about how staying taller will create the advantage of having a higher release point – how that would help to keep the ball down – and the advantage of having a wider arc. He’s 15 and a freshman. Last weekend his average fastball over 7 innings was 78-79 and he hit 80 twice. He has good movement on his 2 seam. It would be scary if he made a mechanical change that got him mid 80s. One interesting thing is that he did the weighted ball throwing over the winter and swears by it. He’s planning to do it again in the off season. I told him to be careful with that.
Dick, OK I hear you on the “take the good leave the bad” potentially being bad advice. I was just trying to give the guy some kind of postive outlook on the thing. In reality it is misery to watch an inexperienced or just plain bad coach screw up a great game. This thread has taken on a life of its own. My original purpose for starting this thread was to try to get some good ideas for how to get a pitcher to stop collapsing. Not only is he losing power but it is ugly and it is hurting my eyes to look at it. I’ve also been thinking some about your comment about – getting from my back leg to my front leg going in a straight line in the shortest amount of time. I’m assuming that you mean in the most efficient and quiet manner??
It’s a tough nut to crack. Baseball is a unique game in that everyone seems to think they know the game better than everyone else. – no matter what their experience or level. I have never figured out why that is. With that in mind one thing I stopped is using the word “wrong”. For example, collapsing way down on the post leg might be effective in combination with some other moves or with a specific body type. To say that it’s “wrong” is not really correct. But in the specific system that we teach it is wrong. As far as the breaking pitches…if you watch the little league world series lots of those 12 year olds (who seem to always look 13 or 14 :-)) rely almost exclusively on the breaking pitch. Lots of people teach that if you throw it right it adds no strain. Consider that the goal might not be to be major league pitcher or even a high school pitcher. The goal might simply be to make it to Williamsport. I agree with you on the straight change. It can be deadly if it is a good one. It’s a feel pitch and a tough pitch to develop. Most kids don’t have the patience to stay with it. I’m sure it’s terrifying to have your kid coached by somebody teaching an entirely different philosophy. This probably won’t be the last time. Take the good leave the bad and move on.
Yes the post leg will bend slightly early. What I’m talking about is the big bend in the knee that drops the whole body way down. This would be the opposite of staying tall. I know that some people probably like or teach this action. I stated my reasons why I don’t like it in the inital post. It makes more sense for me to flex the back knee slightly to stay back but also to stay tall. I was just looking for input and ideas on this.