I played with Beaven, Walden, Kershaw, and all those guys who were the hard texas throwers and have been keeping track of them since…beaven has since then put on at least thirty pounds and been slowed down like you mentioned before. Here’s a clip of his draft video…the only violent thing he does is not bend his back over into a flat back finish like Dick refers to… 2007 Draft | MLB.com: Events (click on draft tracker and watch his video…he’s the number 17 pick in the first round). Here’s how slow he is now that they’ve made their changes….
YouTube – Blake Beavan
“Back leg is the key to pitching”…dick refers to it as leg drive but basically yes it is a push with your back leg….think about pushing the rubber back towards second base in order to drive your front hip to the catcher. Reaching out won’t get you anywhere because your head (and therefore body weight) will remain back. The leg drive is to continue the total body momentum forward towards the target.
just out of curiousity aaron, which video with ryan mills are you refering to?
you need to understand that out of all three videos he never says specific aspect of the program. All he says over and over again is “6-13mph guaranteed” and “unlock your potential.” I’ve been watching this kid or guy (I can’t tell how old he is) for two years now and his website is nothing but flair if you visit it. There’s only music and flash pictures, but no testimonials, informational articles, or in depth links to really know what he’s selling. Read the “articles” section on his website…that same article on how “steroids don’t make great pitchers” or whatever has been the only article on there since the website first launched. Read the products tab and all he says is his dvd teaches “conditioning, the mental game of pitching, and mechanics” but never gives an example or anything of what his philosophy is. I’m warning everyone right now, after tracking this site for 2 years and waiting for more information to come out, this is a SCAM if I ever saw one.
but it should be noted that you don’t get to your long stride by reaching or stepping out with your front leg or foot…you focus simply of driving out with your back leg (pushing against the ground and getting away from the rubber) long and low to get to your long stride. No stepping….just driving with the back leg.
Get a video of yourself and this forum can answer all of your questions in one discussion rather than these random ideas and tests you keep bringing up. We can’t give you anything insightful because we have know idea what you’re doing. Get some video and I know personally I’ll start taking you seriously and answer everything you ask about.
Hey Dick, I’ve been working on my weight shift (getting my head all the way over my back leg first and then shifting off my back leg) but because I start with my head in between my two feet and shift back my back foot will roll back with my weight shift and I’m kind of unstable. I looked at the Explosive pitching dvd where you mentioned starting “right” with all your weight on your back leg from the stretch, but I know we worked on my head in between my two feet at your house. My question is, can I do all my weight (or at least close to it) on my back leg and then do a slight shift back over my leg before shifting forward off my back leg and still be ok? What’s the ideal thing to do to solve my problem because when I try and keep my back foot from rolling, my angle in my back leg is lost while pushing and sometimes it seems like my head still doesn’t get all the way back. Let me know what you think…(and anyone else on the forum who may have dealt with this)
okay thanks for your responses…sorry for going back to my old ways a little bit. Part of the reason for the slow delivery here is like I said I have elbow tendonitis right now and that was my first day to be allowed to throw so that’s literally as hard as I could throw without pain or discomfort so it looks worse than it is as far as smoothness and stuff goes. Anyways, I know what you mean and I will continue doing what you told me to do from our private lessons when I’m healthy again. thanks…
Hey guys, I had been working on getting my arm to not be so close to my head (up early) by shifting my weight fully back like Dick suggested and it helped out a little bit. Unfortunately, I am convinced the mechanic default caught up with me because in my last start I hurt my elbow on a pitch…and it turned out to be acute elbow tendonitis. It’s not really serious, but it couldn’t come at a worse time. For the last week, I’ve been rehabing and was finally cleared to play light catch today which wasn’t too pretty. I did take some video of me throwing however to make sure I wasn’t repeating the mechanical default because the last thing I need is that reinjuring me once I return. Looking at the video, I wasn’t sure if my back arm was too long or not, but it just seems lke it is (my back wrist seems to take over my elbow too soon). Take a look and let me know if this arm is too long or not, and hopefully I will be back pitching this weekend or at worst next weekend. I know the video is slow and methodical but this is as hard as I can throw for now haha.
YouTube – Throwing Arm Practice 2.wmv
thanks for the response vumcrab…yeah that was intentional for practicing proper positioning. I know that it coming into my head is “early arm,” but Dick had me break my hands lower and change the path of my arm motion to go down back and then up to try and fix this. Those changes are made in that video but the arm still comes too close to the head. That’s why I’m not sure what else to work on…am I still early rotating with my front shoulder or what?
So your saying this timing issue isn’t really my arms at all but my body not shifting all the weight back before weight shifting forward…creating the timing problem you’re talking about. Was I doing this in the beginning when my arm swing was shorter and more robotic as well?
Hey guys, Here’s me working from the slide step working on what we talked about. My head is over my belly button better and I’m pushing closed longer. I also was doing what I thought was the right arm motion but the thing still gets too close to my head. This is what I was talking about earlier…don’t know at this pint why it could still be geting too close to my head.
YouTube – Going Sideways and Throwing Arm Practice.wmv
Let me know what you think.
hey thanks I’ll work on that this week…i had better results yesterday…and I’ll post back to this thread sometime at the end of the week or so to get your feedback again. Thanks so much you guys are helping me a ton…by the way I had my first start today against a pretty good NAIA team and got my first win with 7ip 1H 0R for a 2-0 victory. Pretty good start so far. Thanks guys!
I had but trying to get comfortable with my throwing arm is causing me to drift back and forth between good upper body mechanics and good lower body mechanics haha. I think the key there is my head leaning back over my back leg and not going with my body. What do you think?
Hey guys, I have been working hard to incorporate the new arm motion and getting comfortable with it and it was fairly easy to do. I’m moving my hands up and down more to keep my more relaxed and fluid and it’s working well. However, something has changed with the angle of my back leg. I had noticed my knee inside my back leg after weight shift and felt that I wasn’t weight shifting early/smooth enough so I worked on that and incorporated it. After filming today though, my back leg angle was still wrong. What am I missing on this (dick you mentioned in my last post a weight shift problem going on)? Right now the only thing I see is my head not going over my belly button but is there something else I’m overlooking? Our season starts this weekend so I’m wanting to make these changes quickly into next week because I need to be on top of my stuff this year. Anyways…here’s a video to help you see what I’m talking about. Thanks guys,
YouTube – Weight Shift and Throwing Arm Practice.wmv