Hey Guys, I first bought the program in High School a couple of years back. However, after getting into college I haven’t had any time to touch pitching. I recently pitched, my mechanics felt horrible and out of sync. However, I have been in better shape than in high school. My fastball was around 81-84. I would really like to give my school’s team a shot. I go to a PAC-10 school so the competition is really fierce. I’m not sure where to start though. I want to do videotaping and everything. Any ideas? Thanks!
Air resistance, or drag, causes the ball to slow down. Major league pitchers who throw 100 mph usually have only a 4-5 mph decrease. A lot of factors are in play but the coach is wrong. You want to have as minimal speed difference as you can. Why? Because the hitter is hitting a ball that is the plate speed. The faster it is at the plate, the less time he will have to be able to react to it. Sometimes coaches or commentators will say how a pitcher’s fastball seems to speed up towards the end. That just means the speed difference was small.
Yes, I was actually looking at that one! That is the first time I have seen that kind of delivery.
There are literally hundreds of deliveries in slow motion on this youtube channel. Granted, some of them are really bad but the good ones are worth a good look: YouTube – laflippin’s Channel
I understand that pitchers in the past were less likely to do the conventional slower deliveries of today. Whenever I watch footage of pitching in the past, it seem they are very dramatic in their deliveries, ie, they tend to move their legs faster. Is it me or do you guys see a difference also? What were the pitching deliveries like in the past? thanks!
Dear Brentm, The reason it says to add 1 mph per 7 ft is so you can tell what the out of hand speed is. The glove radar reads the pitch’s speed when the ball is almost into the glove. Major League readings are all out of hand readings. The ball can lose anywhere from 3-13 mph depending on how much acceleration the ball was given. The reason the ball slows down is due to air resistance. The farther you are, the more it will slow down. I have a stalker radar gun and it lets you toggle between out of hand and plate readings. Usually, its around an 8-11 mph for faster pitchers at 60 ft. According to the website: “It measures the speed of the ball within 2 feet of the glove. Note that the ball slows down at about 1 mph for each 7 feet of travel, according to Prof. Adair in “The Physics of Baseball”.” This statement isnt necessarily true but from what I’ve seen as its only a general rule of thumb. I used to have another radar gun before that measured late readings and stacking it up against the stalker, I see around a 4-7 mph difference from 46 feet so adding 6 mph to your son’s reading isn’t that unrealistic. But it really depends on the pitcher. I would compare against a stalker or jugs to know for sure.
I have been working with the momentum pitching video ever since I have had more time since school is out. One thing that I am not clear on is how to push off. I remember that Mr. Mills advocated not to push off the traditional way put rather to drive the back leg at the target. Now I am reading in the momentum book that it is crucial to push off. When it says that do I assume I push off with the foot or to push off with the leg? In other words, how should correctly pushing off the rubber feel? Thanks! Albert
Another amazing thing is that the machine measured the speed when the ball was at the plate. Therefore, if we were to clock him using today’s radar guns which measure out of hand speed, he would have been easily over 100. maybe even 103
I was going on youtube when i came across a clip of rick ankiel. There is a shot of him pitching at 2:19. Im just curious but is there anything you guys could see that was wrong in his delivery?
YouTube – “Voices; Real and Imagined” (2001 Rick Ankiel)
Im taking AP Physics in school right now and we came across this equation: W=Fd or, Work = Force x Displacement (distance traveled) Thus, the total work on the ball is directly proportional to how far you release the ball from the rubber to wherever you release it. How do you get that displacement? Long stride. It was kind of ironic that in the beginning chapter, Roger Clemens was used an an example to explain work.
I do agree the fields are being locked up everywhere. There are two fields at my high school and both have come under lock in the past year or so. Sometimes its just due to renovation that gets people all protective of that area.
I bought a stalker sport radar gun that was of a 5 year old? or so version. It has a cigar plug as the power outlet so I had to buy a converter to plug it into outside wall outlets. it cost me only 300 dollars on ebay. The cigar plugs are way cheaper than the handheld. as long as the radar gun for stalker has the peak hold option, youre on the right track. that means that you can capture not only release speeds but also plate speeds. hope this helps.
I don’t think it is a magic bullet as you still need to put in your effort. A really good delivery cant come overnight but with practice.
Thanks for the response max, so am I right to say that as you step back, you push with the left foot if youre right handed unitl your left hip or lead hip crosses the rubber and then you push with the right foot? What I see in video analysis of myself right now is that up until the point where my left foot crosses the rubber everything is fine. Then, as I try to drive from my right foot, my right leg kind of falls behind. Im trying to move fast but is there a specific way to drive off the right foot? Is the concept of pushing the same as that traditional based instructors teach? Like, push off the rubber? Or am I getting mixed up here? I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks! Albert
Hi Max, I am having trouble driving fast away from the rubber. I think I may be on the back side too long. You move really fast in the video. Do you have any suggestions?