Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Jim Tucker, I’m 20 years old and pitch at Chicago State University. I just had tommy john on tuesday and have joined the forums in an attempt to use this next year to become better than I ever was. Just wanted to say hey!
Thanks for coming on Jim. You are in the right place. Who did your surgery and what is your immediate rehab?
Dr. Mark Cohen did my surgery, he is the head team physician for the Bulls and White Sox. He just did Carlos Boozer’s hand surgery. My immediate rehab as of right now is just staying put until Friday, I’m still in the wrap cast with the splint and I’ll get the brace Friday. As far as Friday goes, I should be able to start doing leg workouts, but only doing range of motion exercises for my elbow in an effort to try and get full range of motion within six weeks. I’m excited to get things going because this could be the best thing to happen to my career. With revamped, Dick Mills mechanics, I should be better than ever and am excited to see what can happen. Dr. Lorin Brown from northwest Indiana diagnosed me incorrectly back in March when I got into a collision with my first basemen saying it was just a pinched nerve and I could throw on it. I threw on it from March to August with a torn medial collateral ligament and i think I could still throw effectively with that type of injury because I began implementing Dick’s mechanics, my body was doing more of the work taking less stress on the elbow and i hit 87 for the first time in my life with a completely torn ligament. I am optimistic as to what I can do after rehab with Dick’s mechanics entirely. If you’re looking for a good doctor in the Chicago area, go to Mark Cohen at Rush University.
I’m a righty, 20 years old, a junior in college. I’ve heard the saying that tommy john is almost like a right of passage now in the baseball world, especially for pitchers, everyone usually will need it eventually, because, this may surprise you, the number one factor in why athletes have to get the surgery is number of pitches thrown with a higher velocity being a higher risk. With that said, it’s a tragedy to have to see kids at that having tommy john, the surgery is like getting a new elbow, i pitched on my old elbow for 13 years…..How long did they? 4? 5? It’s a shame.
As far as rehab goes, when it comes time to throw, I can’t pitch off of a mound until I can throw from 150 feet pain free. I don’t see long toss as such a beneficial arm strengthening tool but I believe in the rehab sense, they are having me overload distance wise to prepare me for the 60 feet 6 inch requirement of the mound. Dick is a proponent of this theory in a sense when talking about pitching specificity saying if you wanna throw 100 pitches in a game you better be able to throw 120 in practice. So I believe that type of long toss during rehab is beneficial because you’re not rehabbing as a pitcher only, you are rehabbing as a baseball player with a new elbow. I don’t endorse long toss with the kids I teach and only get out to about 100 feet myself when playing catch before a start. There is little arm strength to be gained from throwing to help increase your velocity when a few tweaks can be made to your mechanics to get you more velocity instantly. Tim Lincecum’s weight lifting is doing 1/2 pound burrito curls and he isn’t hurting in the velocity department. So, in closing, long toss as a type of overload or prehab(measures taken before a problem happens)=ok, I’m alright with that… Long toss as a way of gaining arm strength to throw harder=Come on, I’m pretty sure we all see the velocity spikes that can be had from proper pitching mechanics, and it’s not pitching specific.
BTW, even though I’m a Red Sox fan, I’d love to see the Cubs get a championship too!
Very interesting story and I will follow your progress as you go. I’m glad you have a good doctor b/c they are surely not all the same. Are you a leftty or a righty? I have a 13 year old son who has broken his left arm twice so we ended up seeing an old friend here in Columbia, SC. He went back to school in orthopaedics as a second career and studied under Dr. Andrews. He also has a son around the age of mine. I have seen rehab programs where long toss is one of the primary exercises. Do you have an opinion on this yet?
We have gone slow in his development as baseball is a religion in SC and many of the kids his age have played in 100+ tournaments. My son has played in 3. I have noticed several pitchers under 13 who have had TJ. I’ve posted before that I may have made a mistake not pushing him more but I am betting that his physical characteristics and lack of burn out will override his lack of experience. In any case, he is not throwing or playing baseball now as they have been involved since January and believe his arm and mind need a couple months off.
BTW, both my son and I have a sickness in that we love the Cubs. In fact we had a great weekend recently as we celebrated his birthday in Chicago. We saw the Cubs beat the Mets, ate shaved beef sandwiches, steaks and pizza and walked all over Chicago. What a great city. We both hope the Cubs win a championship during his life time!
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